Предложение насчёт билдов

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Предложение насчёт билдов

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Я предлогаю чтобы все тут написали билды своих чаров (хотя бы некоторых) чтобы потом глядя на них составить билд для всего парти. Это позволит нам подстроится друг под друга, дать советы другим и выслушать советы других :confused:

Мой вар\еле knockdown\air

devastating hammer

crushing blow

heavy blow

counter blow

belly smash

gale

whirlwind

Благодоря многочисленным комбам противник валяется всё время на полу получая не слабый урон. Раньше когда я бегал с афтер шоком то у меня была проблема, пока не наберёш адреналина нокдауна не будет, теперь в самом начале можно кастануть gale или whirlwind против варов и сразу же их ослепить, gale также хорошо помогает против убегающих монков
На прошлом гвг работало в принципе не плохо
С удовольствием выслушаю советы и критику по улучшению и изменению моего чара :nice:

p.s. эта идея насчёт билдов сработала бы ещё лучше если бы мы нашли время чтобы потестить наш билд все вместе ;)
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Vot eto rylit esli dogodaetes kak etim polzovatsa( nado eshe 7 shtyk etih cami poprobyite pridymat :D ), moja gildija etim polzyetsa
Warrior/Elementalist

Skill 1: *Devastating Hammer
Skill 2: Hammer Bash
Skill 3: Crushing Blow
Skill 4: Irresistible Blow
Skill 5: Bull's Strike
Skill 6: Aftershock
Skill 7: Sprint
Skill 8: Resurrection Signet

Hammer Mastery 12 + 4
Strength 3 + 1
Earth Magic 12 + 0
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ОК, вот мой некрос:

Bone horror
Death Swarm
Rotting Flesh
Malaise
Vile Touch
Death Nova
Weakness (или другое название, но кидает Слабость на врага)
Res Signet (of course)

Работает так - если попался кастер, то Malaise на него (дегенерация маны 2) и Rotting Flesh (дегенерация здоровья 4 у него и у всех рядом ним пробегающих/бьющих его, т.е. и свои заболевают, и чужие). А дальше по ситуации - если соседей много то Death Swarm, если кастер сам - то Vile Touch (но заражаешься сам при контакте - причину см.выше). А дальше по ситуации, но без поддержки кастеру уже очень тяжко с моими "подарками".

Если файтер, то Weakness & Rotting Flesh. Дальше опять по ситуации - или на съебки если я один, или бомбить Death Swarm/Vile Touch.

Dark Fiend не использую - дорогие. А Хорроры дешевле и создают щит от файтеров (слабый правда) Для его усиления кидаю Death Nova на Хоррора - как его завалят/подохнет будет взрыв!(friendly fire) Это очень помогает.

С рунами у меня некрос:
Смерть - 16
Саул-Рип - 11
Проклятия - остальное
Кровь - не использую.

Когда неделю назад играли Team Arenu, то я с Артуром (елементалист) координировали действия по Skype. С Сайбером переписывались только - было сложнее. Советую всем не ебать мозги с Тимспиком, а поставить Skype и запускать телеконференцию на время игры. Ресурсов жрет мало, качество хорошее, лучше чем Гоха.Ру.

Мне главное получить хотя бы один труп - дальше идет уже цепная реация. Не раз в конце боя я имел 5 хорроров - результат здесь и ежу понятен. Иногда 7. Главное - поднять первого. Некросами играет мало народа, поэтому все трупы принадлежат мне :-)

Билд меня радует, хотя как у всякого в нем есть свои дыры.

Тестировать перса смогу только после 29-го августа... Увы и ах. Но у нас уже появляется в гилде подобие тим-спирита. Это радует.

З.Ы. Кстати завтра буду в Шире-Мать-Его 1 и 2. Если кому скучно будет - подкатывайте пивка попьем. +7 914 182 3887 втечение понедельника 8 августа.
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noschet bone horror ti zrja lychshe b ti vzrival trypi chem podnimal bolshe dmg :D
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belerofon wrote:Vot eto rylit esli dogodaetes kak etim polzovatsa( nado eshe 7 shtyk etih cami poprobyite pridymat :D ), moja gildija etim polzyetsa
Warrior/Elementalist

Skill 1: *Devastating Hammer
Skill 2: Hammer Bash
Skill 3: Crushing Blow
Skill 4: Irresistible Blow
Skill 5: Bull's Strike
Skill 6: Aftershock
Skill 7: Sprint
Skill 8: Resurrection Signet

Hammer Mastery 12 + 4
Strength 3 + 1
Earth Magic 12 + 0
no heavy blow? lame :P
doh! was good to have you around, your gift of being able to piss off nearly anyone has always impressed and entertained me.

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belerofon wrote:Vot eto rylit esli dogodaetes kak etim polzovatsa( nado eshe 7 shtyk etih cami poprobyite pridymat :D ), moja gildija etim polzyetsa
Warrior/Elementalist

Skill 1: *Devastating Hammer
Skill 2: Hammer Bash
Skill 3: Crushing Blow
Skill 4: Irresistible Blow
Skill 5: Bull's Strike
Skill 6: Aftershock
Skill 7: Sprint
Skill 8: Resurrection Signet

Hammer Mastery 12 + 4
Strength 3 + 1
Earth Magic 12 + 0
Berserker stance тоже надо брать для адреналина :nice:
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Post by Kam Rus »

А мне интересно выслушать мнение по моему персу
Вар/монк пока 13 левел и не все скилы открыты
В основном махаюсь мечиком. Юзаю скилы такие

Скилы Вариора
Frenzy
Endure Pain
Sever Artery
Gash
Скилы Монка
Smite
Resurrect
Vital Blessing
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Kam Rus wrote:А мне интересно выслушать мнение по моему персу
Вар/монк пока 13 левел и не все скилы открыты
В основном махаюсь мечиком. Юзаю скилы такие

Скилы Вариора
Frenzy
Endure Pain
Sever Artery
Gash
Скилы Монка
Smite
Resurrect
Vital Blessing
юзай axe, а так... smite,vital blessing фигня
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а так... smite,vital blessing фигня
Насчет vital blessing. дополнительные 100 жизни никому не помешают. Хотя иногда мобы снимают этот баф :(
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Prikol v tom Kam chto GW eto ge komandnaya igra. T.e. kagdi delaet svoe delo: monk lechit isdali, warrior atakuet v blignem bou i tak dalee... Po krainei mere eto samaya uspeshnaya taktika.
Drugimi slovami, esli ti warrior, to ne trat pointi i mesta v lente saklinani na lechenie. Etim saimetsya monk, kotori prosto neobhodim pochti v luboi gruppe.
Tvoya sadacha - nanesti kak mogno bolshe damaga sa kak mogno meshi srok.
V GW samodostatochnih igrokov bit ne moget (nu ili konechno moget, tolko dolgno oni ne protianut :lol: ).
Tak chto ya na tvoem meste poka vsial bi kakie nit smiterskie attakuushie spelli, no bukvalno odin ili dva, a vse ostalnoe ot wara. I vpered, mochit vragov rodini ;) Chut poposge v igre mogno budet pomeniat vtoroi klass, tam uge mogno budet sdelat is tvoego chara PvE ubiizu :crown:

PS ressurect po-moemu sanimaet sliiiishkom dolgo chtob kastanut. Sa eto vremya tebya i interrupnut mogut, i grohnut i mnogo chego eshe ... V obshem na arene skagem lucshe brat signet vmesto ressurection. V itoge vigodnee dlya igroka i ego teama. A v PvE signet peresaregaetsya, kagdi ras kogda ubivaesh bossa. Tak chto eto ne dolgno bit problemoi.
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Vot eto moy sportsmen.
Begaet na dlinnie distancii (marafon) ot Ascalon do Amnoon Oasis za 1 chas dobegaet do finisha (1 chas esli net vstrechnogo vetra, a esli est', to za 1 chas 15 minut i eto vkluchaya Sanctum Cay mission kotoruu on toje probegat vrode emu v tualet prispichilo)

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2 Anriel
я понял про что ты. но возможно я не в тему спросил. т.к. щас в основном я играю на сюжете и исходя из этого и спрашивал как более менее юзать скилы на моем 13 левле.
ЗЫ. Касательно ПвП и прочего, тут я тока тренируюсь и тоже хотел бы уточнить какого перса создать при первичной профе Варриор. Вернее что лучше для ПвП из второй профы и так же примерно расстановку скилов и каким оружием бицца
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Vnachale otkroy kak mojno bol'she skilov (osobenno ELITE)
naydi sebe "nihrena sebe" orujie a potom ochen; horosho prochitay chto kajdiy spell delaet
Poigraysya v Arena s raznimi spellami i smotri kakoy rabotaet protim kogo ili ne rabotaet...vot tak mi vse i uchilis'. :nice: :respect:
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Naglo stirino s gwonline.net; Warrior Strategy Forum :p Original poster = dixalex. Vot ssilka na topic po etomu buildu, nachati vchera:
http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=368248

Ok everyone I will finally unleash my build upon the Guild Wars community. I have kept it secret for a long time. I have played countless PvP, studied various scenarios and refined my build accordingly. Tactics is a warrior Attribute used mainly to survive and defend. Yet most people assume that with high tactics one cannot have much attack power. I will prove otherwise when I list the 7 warrior skills. One way everyone stops warriors is to spam them with conditions; i.e. cripple, blind. The Warrior class has no direct means of stopping this. Thus for a subclass, I recommend Necromancer.

Health: 485(in stance 530)
Energy: 27

Attributes:
Tactics: 16
Strength:11
Axe Mastery: 9

Armor:
Tactics Helmet
Gladiator Chest
Gladiator Hands
Gladiator Legs
Gladiator Boots

Weapons:
Sundering Axe: 10% Chance.
+15% damage while in a stance.
+30 Health

Sheilds:
+45 health while in a stance.
-2 damage while in a stance.

Runes:
Superior Tactics
Superior Vigor
Superior Absorbstion
Minor Strength
Minor Axe Mastery

And now the skills. I will list them. For most of you once reading the skills it will click as to how "perfect" this build is but for others you will be skeptical. I will thus full explain each skill's reason and how they work with the build.
One thing to keep in mind is that with this build, each skill plays off each other. Its basically full of combos, and everyone knows combos are lethal and strategic.

Tactics:
Elite: "Victory Is Mine": For EACH and EVERY conditon EACH FOE is suffering NEAR you gain (with 16 tactics) 72 health and 5 energy. 15 second cool down time.

Analysis:
With just 2 condtions being suffered by your target you gain 144 health and 10 energy. For one, this skill cost no energy as if you use it correctly you gain the cost of it right back( 5 energy). I have been healing rediculously by this spell. The highest I have been healed from one target was 432 meaning that the foe was suffering from 6 conditions. Poor guy. You dont need constant healing from monks. You dont have to worry about dieing. You can tank very well.

Healing Signet: Heal yourself for free. Everyone knows this skill so I wont explan it. I will say that with 16 tactics your are healed for 159. Victory is Mine is instant and cannot be interupted so I tend to use it when My health is really low. When my health gets to half i use the Signet.

Balanced Stance: with 16 tactics: For 21 Seconds you cannot suffer from critical attacks or get knocked down. Need I say more. This to me is the best Stance ever. For 21 seconds you own hammer warriors. For 21 seconds you can kill a Elementalist who spams Gale and meteor showers. The cool down time is 30 seconds. So basically throughout any battle I always have it on. I love standing in meteor showers and slaughtering the elementalist. Basically there will always be a need for this skill. But thats only the start. With a certain skill this Stance makes a kind of "Broken Combo"...

Desperation Blow: Hit for +42 damage(16 tactics) and inflict a random condition on your foe. (Cripple, Weakness, Bleeding, Deep Wound) You are then knocked down. Since you have balanced Stance. The negative effect of this skill never happens. So you do insane damage and get a free condition on your target. This skill ties back into "Victory Is Mine". Its recharge time is 7 seconds. Victory is Mine recharge time is 15 seconds. Do the math.

Thrill of Victory: Hit for +42 damage (16 tactics) If your Health is higher than your opponents. I usually follow this attack after doing desperation blow. -200 damage in 2 seconds. This skill recharges in 10 seconds and cost 5 energy.

Dismember or "Fear Me": I personally LOVE fear me. -4 energy. It cost only 4 adrenaline. You cannot counter it save mesmers adrenline stopping skills. With Dismember you get a garateed deep wound on your foe. Which fuels "Victory is Mine"

Wild Blow: Lose all Adrenaline. If it hits it will be a critical hit and your foe is knocked out of what ever stance they are in. Wild blow cannot be blocked or evaded. I hardly use this attack as part of my onslaught but pack it for the sake of being prepared for the Oath Shot ranger stance spammers or the farmer lv16 w/mo stance spammer. Memsers tend to evade a lot too. Basically as a warrior you need to be able to hit your foe to be effective, I say why not bring a skill that garantees you to hit.

Necromancer:
Just one skill puts it all together. Experts already know what it is.

NO attribute:
Plague Touch: No recast time. 5 energy cost. Remove one condition from yourself and put it on your foe. People let me say that I love this spell. You all know the conditions. With plague touch you can easily rid yourself of them. Warriors are easily stopped by cripple or blind. Memsers Signet of Midnight and rangers crippling shot. Throw it right back on them. Even burning lol its funny but its true. This skill also feeds Victory is Mine.

Recap: Each skill plays a crucial part with each other. Your opening moves should be Balance Stance+ Desperation Blow. Gosh I love that combo and will never stop using it. Then Thrill of Victory. Instantly you have done 150-200 damage to your foe and within another 7-10 seconds you will do it again. They are dead under 20 seconds garanteed. Know how to use Victory is Mine. Desperation Blow and Plague Touch are key here. Always be cautious of your energy and health in regards to Victory is mine. If you see a foe who is poisoned hit him with a desperation blow and then hit VIM. You wont get anything is you dont time it right. Use ViM to gain energy to continue your onslaught. Use it to stay alive as well. Just consider yourself as a warrior without the negative Low energy. Very broken Elite. I love it.

Before you post let me write the strengths and weaknesses. This Build is not perfect, but for what its worth it will beat 97 percent of every other build 1v1. I garantee it. It cant beat its replica, an Invincible Monk, Mesmer who hexes you with slow downs and then runs away.


Vrode ochen neplohoi build.
Plus na to chto skasal Crazy: luchshe snat chto konkretno iskat, a ne prosto sobirat eliti. Est kucha elitov kotorie vriadli ponadobyatsya, esli komanda ne rasschitana spezialno. IMHO, luchshe glianut po forumam, naiti normalnie buildi, sobrat skilli i poprobovat. V processe poyavlautsya novie idei, i togda uge ishesh neobhodimie skilli. :cool:
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